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This is the channel for the discussion of metaphysical and parapsychological subjects. Please keep discussion of these topics to this channel and out of the rest of the server.
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I'm arguing that you and your gf are already on the same wavelength so your odds are higher.
1:02 AM
Then given those increased odd, + the lack of full scientific rigor (double-blind tests), tells me your tests are incomplete
1:02 AM
And even with those double-blind tests
1:03 AM
There's still a chance that things will line up
1:03 AM
Simply from placebo/statistics
1:03 AM
You can roll a die 8 times and get 6 every time
1:04 AM
Two humans in constant contact talking to each other who already are into the same stuff, want the same stuff to be true, have an intuition for each other?
1:04 AM
Definitely non-zero chance of it working
1:04 AM
Which ties me back to my original story
1:05 AM
And I'm repeating myself
1:05 AM
So I'll step away for food
1:05 AM
Have a nice night
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Hmm... that is true, but eventually, that makes everything event-wise unproven, which is technically true by quantum mechanics.
1:06 AM
Thank you.
1:07 AM
Two humans in constant contact talking to each other who already are into the same stuff, want the same stuff to be true, have an intuition for each other?
@Zoru This. This right here. We only knew each other for a month before we had this happen. I think this assumes otherwise.
1:07 AM
We also were not into the same stuff, but I assume you mean tulpamancy, which, to that, yes.
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I think you're grasping at straws too hard
1:08 AM
There's so many layers of my points that you'd have to complete so much rigor (edited)
1:09 AM
I think you should sleep on this and process the thoughts later, because you seem stuck on proving that it's true or finding some chink in the armor.
1:09 AM
The specifics of the argument don't have to be perfect for the thrust of it to be true.
1:10 AM
As I said, good night. Please don't ping me again. I'll check the channel later.
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Well, I was confused by 'same wavelength', assuming it was metaphysical because it couldn't have been meant physically, because 'what wavelength', but I get it. No. We were very much not on the same wavelength, or if we were, that process only would be possible through a metaphysical connection.
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You'll see what you want to see
1:10 AM
Humans only care about perception, not objective reality, and that's okay
1:10 AM
I already gave you an out that works
1:11 AM
Don't have to stick on the magic thing
1:11 AM
You're exhibiting what we call "motivated reasoning"
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no... If I tried explaining it with that, there would be other wrinkles where it wouldn't fit.
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And besides
1:13 AM
You're bringing this to the Tulpa.info discord community
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I want an objective reality that fits with my experiences. If that doesn't line up, then my experiences aren't real, but then they also did affect the real world in the form of my girlfriend.
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We're not like, vetted scientists
1:14 AM
What I can tell you is that 1) The effect it's having on you and your partner can totally be real, even if descriptions don't line up with reality 2) Brains are awesome
1:15 AM
People have studied this shit for decades, and still haven't been able to verify the effects of it
1:15 AM
There's only ONE person whose studies came close to showing off the paranormal
1:15 AM
It was about humans and precognition
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Ah. I did initially come here asking where I should go to get a scientific perspective on my experiences. I was told reddit, and I was told to go to the metaphysics channel. I did the latter knowng that reddit isn't a very viable source and hoped someone here would lead me to a better one.
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We're not like, vetted scientists
@Zoru Wait, who isn't?
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/r/science might have a discord you could hop on
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pfffffffffft
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Ah. Thank you.
1:18 AM
according to reddit, everyone on reddit is a vetted scientist
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I mean if being a couple inches away from a bachelors in psychology and engineering isn't enough of a scientific mindset then Idk what to say
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Ah yes, the tulpa community. So well known for its scientific rigor and definitely no relation with /x/ or /mlp/ (edited)
1:19 AM
traa_dab_nyooom
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you coulda just said 4chan and had the exact same effect
1:19 AM
lol
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/x/ and /mlp/ make it worse
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Your story isn't interesting enough to really be worthwhile to most scientists
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What's cool about brain shit
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Well, I asked because my server list is either gaming, tulpa, or metaphysical. I didn't want to just go to a skeptics community if I was going to ask for scientific understanding of my experiences which were metaphysical. I felt that'd be out of place.
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Is that jsut because the person's explanation of their perception sucks or is off
1:21 AM
Doesn't mean there's nothing going on under the hood in the person's brains
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Instead you came to a tulpa community asking for a skeptic's opinion?
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Well, more so where to go for one.
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They got one, and clearly aren't satisfied
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There's nowhere better to go dude
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People in science communities will tell you everything I told you
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People in science communities will call you a fucking loon
1:22 AM
They won't tbh
1:22 AM
The greater public, sure
1:22 AM
But actual scientists? No way.
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As soon as you start telling them about your imaginary friends having an erotic roleplay together
1:22 AM
It's fucking over
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I mean, to be delusional, you have to not question it, from what I understand. Feel free to correct me, but point to a source on that if you do.
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"Sure you don't want to go to the dr for schizophrenia"
1:23 AM
People who study human behavior/brainshit will take this stuff seriously tbh
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But they won't take your account seriously (edited)
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understood.
1:24 AM
I guess that's true.
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Nothing about it is serious
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Your account is shit, your methods are shit, and you're stuck on assuming it's real despite all of my evidence to the contrary
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Idk why you feel so compelled
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No point in seeking out external opinions if you're going to ignore the ones from the community most likely to take you at face value (edited)
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^
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At any rate, I really should have hopped off for food two hours ago
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...Okay. So why is it that I don't hear about roleplays leading to anything big?
1:26 AM
yeah, go ahead and do that.
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Because why should they?
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Then why did mine?
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I'd say that it wasn't anything big
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Donovan, I'm gonna block you until tomorrow. I'll unblock you then. I don't have the spoons to go over your questions.
1:27 AM
Sorry
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Why did I get that weird buzzing tingling arousal that, 1, isn't like arousal, and 2, corresponded with everything that was happening in the chat? (edited)
1:28 AM
no, you're fine, zoru. I didn't mean to keep you waiting.
1:28 AM
I just want to know why.
1:29 AM
Why was that different.
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I'm a bit out of the loop, what are your experiences? Can you sum them up in two or three sentences?
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1) I can make my host get all kinds of weird tingling sensations
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what happened.
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2) No fucking idea probably just luck, bias, or whatever
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I would say luck, but it's so much luck that it's comparable to real cause and effect. And bias doesn't do anything to explain it because of how it doesn't apply, or if it does, wouldn't cause those sensations to come up.
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If it's real cause and effect, then you would be able to reproduce it
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And I have. many many many times.
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Then do it again and record it
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it was cause and effect when it happened.
1:31 AM
ah.
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